Colbert and Heaton debate who is more Catholic


Hollywood celebrities, Stephen Colbert, host of The Late Show, and actress, Patricia Heaton (Everybody Loves Raymond, The Middle), are outspoken about their Catholicism.

In the 7-minute video above, Heaton appears as a guest on The Late Show and she and Colbert have a “throwdown” about who is more Catholic. The discussion includes the preponderance of large Catholic families back in the day, relatives who entered religious orders, the superstitious practice of burying a saint Joseph statue upside down in the yard to expedite the sale of a house, and the definitions of a monstrance and scapular.

In the middle of the friendly joust, Heaton challenges Colbert to name the number of places Mary has purportedly appeared…since her death. She mentions that nine appearances have been sanctioned by the church and asks Colbert to name them. Colbert confidently retorts that Mary never died but was assumed into Heaven. What? Not so fast, Colbert! Actually, the Roman Catholic church has never declared whether Mary had died or was still alive immediately prior to her alleged assumption. Colbert then begins counting off some of the more well-known alleged appearances: Lourdes, Fatima, Medjugorje… Whoops! Medjugorje? Really? Heaton accepts Medjugorje as a correct answer but the Catholic church has NOT sanctioned the alleged Marian appearances there. At this point it’s clear that Heaton and Colbert aren’t quite the devout Catholics they advertise themselves to be.

The good-natured sparring between Colbert and Heaton reminded me of my many years in Catholicism. For a Catholic, it’s all about the church, the institution, the system, the structure. In Catholicism, Jesus Christ takes a back seat to the clergy, ceremony, ritual, the hierarchy, the rubrics, traditions, the organization. In seven minutes, these two devout Catholics never once mention Jesus Christ. Not once. It’s all about the church. That’s exactly the way it is in Roman Catholicism. Faith is in the institution, not in the Savior, Jesus Christ.

6 thoughts on “Colbert and Heaton debate who is more Catholic

  1. Being raised as a Jehovah’s Witness, it was the same way. You could be black as night on the inside but as long as you were attending meetings, knocking on doors on Saturday morning, attending their conventions, commenting at meetings etc, you were golden.

    But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look at his appearance or at his physical stature, because I have refused him. For the Lord does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.”
    I Samuel 16:7 NKJV
    So although I don’t know too many Catholics, I can just picture any group debating amongst themselves.

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    1. Nathan, Thanks for your perspective. Faithful Catholics are quite proud of their membership in the “one, true church” with all of its rituals and ceremonies but they have not accepted Christ personally. Yes, I can see where JWs would also be quite proud to be in “the only organization established by Jehovah.”

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